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Feb 11 10 11:14 AM
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Feb 11 10 2:49 PM
I really don't understand where you are coming from here Brian,
here in this earth when matters of doctrine are disputed between brethren because of our limitations of the flesh we are not one universal catholic church
This is what I was pointing out to you earlier, not MY teaching, but the teaching of this creed, and you call me a modalist for it.
Personally, I don't care to try to understand
Feb 11 10 5:19 PM
<all mainline Christianity does>all "believers in CHRIST" do not submit to "doctrines of devils" which declare there is a "holy catholic church", which there isn't. when you refer to the"mainline", you refer to what CHRIST SAID is "wide is the path that leadeth to destruction".
<IF your definition of CHRIST is wrong in the first place....>
for those whose "FAITH cometh by HEARING and HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD" and not satanic CULT as you have bowed the knee to, the CHRISTIANS "FAITH" is in "THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD", their LORD and SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST. Not the satanic occult "jesus" that is connected to the "mother of god"/"queen of heaven" satanism, or satans "catholic" creed deceiving cults.<there are some key, definitive doctrines that MUST BE HELD>
which is complete and utter satanic deception.
GOD SAYS:
"FAITH cometh by HEARING and HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD", so you are a LOST deceiver Brian T.
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Feb 11 10 5:40 PM
Bible Believer
all "believers in CHRIST" do not submit to "doctrines of devils" which declare there is a "holy catholic church", which there isn't. when you refer to the"mainline", you refer to what CHRIST SAID is "wide is the path that leadeth to destruction".
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Feb 11 10 5:51 PM
"A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure." - Segal's Law
Feb 11 10 6:07 PM
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Feb 11 10 6:26 PM
What? That he is the Lord?
Again, spoken like a true Catholic. Replace the "Creeds" with Scripture and you'd be on the money.
According to you? You offer no definitive base for your accusation, you merely offer your own judgment.
Hypostases is not in the Scripture, and is not an interpretation of anything in Scripture,
'm not arguing the Trinity with you Brian, but you have been puffed up, and now that you are confronted with your arrogance,
You have set yourself up in a place you ought not to be, and that is as God.
I will worship the Lord Jesus Christ, for ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD DWELLETH IN HIM.
The Anabaptists were heavily persecuted by both Protestants and Catholics
That I confess that I am just a man and not an eternal being as God is
Feb 11 10 6:32 PM
The NT canon is not men's work, not of men's doing, but of God.
Yet, someone needs to DEFINE what "Jesus is the Lord" means Brian? We have the definition in the Scriptures....
Feb 11 10 6:52 PM
Feb 11 10 6:54 PM
BrianT wrote: The NT canon is not men's work, not of men's doing, but of God.How do you know, since scripture doesn't define the canon? Get it yet? Yet, someone needs to DEFINE what "Jesus is the Lord" means Brian? We have the definition in the Scriptures.... And all the Mormons and New Agers and Satanist and every heretic that ever lived agrees with that statement and says "Amen". The problem is, the "definition" you or they come up with is based on personal interpretation. If you can't measure that up against something more authoritative than your own fallible brain, you cannot be sure you interpreted it correctly in the first place.
Feb 11 10 8:00 PM
You are not giving respect to the work of the Holy Ghost in leading us into all Truth, and this Truth includes what books are of God or not. Get it?
The Scriptures need not be measured to anything else but themselves. The Scriptures are very plain and clear as to who Jesus is.
Feb 11 10 8:54 PM
Feb 11 10 10:08 PM
<think of what you are saying>I have.<if it were not for the Reformation you would be a roman catholic today>
are you trying to tell me that the "reformation" "saved" me? I hope not. CHRISTIANS were here long before any "reformation" or "roman catholic" CULTS.
<the reformers>
unless they preached "THE WORD OF GOD" and not man made writings then they were just a fraction of the satanic cult of rome. GOD'S WORD is clear. "MY sheep HEAR MY VOICE". not "my sheep hear other voices than mine".
<do we reject those doctrines just because rome holds to them?>
the CHRISTIAN "HEARS" and "BELIEVES THE WORD OF GOD", not man made cult teachings of roman catholicism which formed that satanic cult.
<you need to see what you are saying....>
no, you need to see what you are saying. You are trying to tell me, a "BELIEVER IN CHRIST" AND "THE WORD OF GOD" that those two are insufficient and that i "need" something outside of "THE WORD OF GOD" as final authority. That's CULT garbage!
<labelled a renegade without any authority>
you mean like the roman catholic CULT labels me??? GOOD, because they are bound for HELL and I'm not.
Feb 11 10 10:20 PM
<but if there is no STANDARD DEFINITION of what that means>is that why CHRIST SAYS "MY sheep HEAR MY VOICE"???? where does CHRIST say "my voice is not enough and needs standard definition"??? you are trying to establish the need for a CULT, where CHRIST SAYS "take heed that no one deceive you". of course I "BELIEVE HIM".
<the definition>
so which CULT defines your GOD? The CULT of rome who have been taught to pray to "the queen of heaven"??? the cult of islam who teaches a jesus who was a prophet? the mormon who teaches the book of mormon which is clearly FALSE. Which CULT did CHRIST tell you to seek for "the definition"?
<the creeds provide the standard>
the standard that has led BILLIONS on their way to HELL praying to a FALSE christ. CHRIST nor any other APOSTLE OF JESUS CHRIST taught we who are HIS to adhere to cult "creeds".
"FAITH cometh by HEARING and HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD". clearly you do NOT "BELIEVE" this. you seek man and cult and not GOD.
<if we reject those and have everyone REST solely on what SCRIPTURE SAYS...>
We who do REJECT all man made deceptions like you BELIEVE, and do "REST solely on what" "THE WORD OF GOD" SAYS, have been "SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH" as CHRIST promised. You've yet to "see or HEAR" this, which is clear. You are clearly LOST in "traditions of men" and their cult indoctrinals.
"so then, FAITH cometh by HEARING and HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD"
Feb 12 10 6:15 AM
I have.
No gb I am telling you that if there had been no Reformation the truth would have been lost and all we would have today are Roman Catholic and others like her in existence. The reformation is responsible for the freedom of worship we enjoy today and not being under the bondage of Rome. Could you imagine Rome controlling the printing of Scripture as she did in the middle ages?
The reformers cry was "sola scriptura (scripture alone) against Rome's threefold authority. You owe much more than you want to admit to those men, many of whom were burned at the stake or died some other horrible way at the hands of Rome.
You didn't answer the question. Do we reject the Deity of Christ or the inspiration of Scripture because Rome holds to them? Do we reject everything Rome holds to?
Feb 12 10 9:36 AM
where does CHRIST say "my voice is not enough and needs standard definition"???
"REST solely on what" "THE WORD OF GOD" SAYS
Feb 12 10 9:43 AM
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