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Dec 5 08 8:12 AM
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Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Dec 5 08 9:00 AM
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Dec 5 08 4:19 PM
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: As you already know, we are not Kingdom Builders. I know what we are seeing now turns our stomachs, but that's what the Book told us what was going to happen. We need to understand this is a blessing for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. King James Bible
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Dec 5 08 11:19 PM
CJAV1611 wrote: WIL Paul told us this: Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: As you already know, we are not Kingdom Builders. I know what we are seeing now turns our stomachs, but that's what the Book told us what was going to happen. We need to understand this is a blessing for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Dec 5 08 11:38 PM
Shain1611 wrote: Wil I just want to clear up something in my last post so as not to confuse the Brethren... Rev. 12:17 as with Rev.14:12; and Rev. 22:14 , this is only for the Old Testament Saints and the Tribulation Saints. We are not part of either, we are Church age saints and are not held to keeping the 10 commandments. However Satan still attacks the Children of God which includes us. I would just like to throw out something here , Does the Holy Spirit ever leave those who are Saved in the Age of Grace as to the Holy Spirit leaving David, Saul and Samson. Like I have said , the Bible is a Wild Book, Amen and Amen
Dec 6 08 6:45 AM
Dec 6 08 6:54 AM
As far as the Holy Ghost. Jesus said that the Comforter would abide with us forever. There was no promise of an abiding Comforter in the OT. In fact, the Holy Ghost did not indwell the body of the OT saint.
Dec 6 08 7:24 AM
Johns663 wrote: Hi Wil Merry Christmas to you and to all here on this board. I know that God Almighty will send all those who have rejected him to hell this would include all Homosexuals and I know for some that sounds cruel but our God is a Righteous God and will not allow any sin at all to enter into Heaven. I don't think we should mis-treat anyone who is out of the will of God unless they are breaking the Law.
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Dec 6 08 1:18 PM
I would just like to throw out something here , Does the Holy Spirit ever leave those who are Saved in the Age of Grace as to the Holy Spirit leaving David, Saul and Samson. Like I have said , the Bible is a Wild Book, Amen and Amen
Yes ,I agree a perfect book that no man could tame. I will share my opinion ,hoping that I am not overstepping my boundaries in regard to a mutual respect to others here. Coming from another view point but coming from the same back ground as most here, as the church I was raised in as a new believer at 33 years old, which is of the sect referred to as the Plymouth Brethren. I can understand the thoughts regarding different dispensations as to the work of the Spirit of Christ or Holy Spirit.
I questioned over the years what it meant as far as the dwelling of the Spirit and questioned some of the commentaries at the time regarding the end of this matter. My opinion regarding those matters has changed somewhat over the years, knowing for instance that Spirit of Christ makes no difference between the Jews and the gentiles ,Abraham was justified by faith a faith not of his own ,as are.
When scripture says whosoever does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to Christ I believe, today it applies to all saints including the tens of thousands of Old testament saints,starting perhaps with Abel in whom the Spirit of Christ looked unto with favor/ grace..
When looking at verses such as with David as he speaks of the mercy of Christ ,as the precept that guides the understanding of this chapter
Psa 51:1 Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions.
The verse in mind which some regard as to the Spirit of Christ leaving the believers and forsaking the promises that were given ,to me seems more to reflect a plea….for a closer relationship as drawing us nearer,rather than actually being cut off and not so much that the saint has lost his means of repentance and he would be subjecting the Spirit of Christ to open shame as a result,as a principle found in Hebrews ,knowing better thing acompany salvation by faith through grace.
We would not ,I beleive ,expect David or Samson who began with the Spirit to make themselves perfect by a work of the flesh.
Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit. Psa 51:10
I see this as more of falling from the grace by which any believer stands or falls, showing us that our God is Holy and cannot look at our sin. As believers we are always in need of the Spirit of Christ cleansing of our hearts as He restores us to the joy of salvation knowing fully well it is the Spirit of Christ alone that can circumcise our hearts in this manner.
Peter a man like us who witnesses to us the results of falling from grace on one hand as when he forbid Christ to finish his work and the other hand as the work of the Spirit in him revealing who He was, sheds some light unto this thought of whether or not David and Samson did not continue to receive the faith that allowed them to believe God all the days of their lives. Having thus obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise as it remain for us.
Peter under the inspiration of the Spirit of Christ said…
Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you :Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1Pe 1:9
Dec 6 08 1:33 PM
OJ will be treated like a king while in Jail because that's how black American sees him.
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Dec 6 08 1:39 PM
seen it time and time again.
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Dec 6 08 9:43 PM
It was racism that set him free the first time and now they are claiming the jury was raciest for convicting him this time. It was all about race and it is still all about race. OJ will be treated differently while in Jail, he will not be attacked by his fellow brothers, like white's are.
Dec 6 08 11:51 PM
CJAV1611 wrote: Wow You are so thin skinned, I never said you did. You need to slow down and read what I said.
Dec 6 08 11:53 PM
CJAV1611 wrote: Wil You said: As far as the Holy Ghost. Jesus said that the Comforter would abide with us forever. There was no promise of an abiding Comforter in the OT. In fact, the Holy Ghost did not indwell the body of the OT saint. Oh yes HE did. The fact is the Holy Spirit never stayed within those saints as he does with us. The Holy Spirit moved within and then left them never staying within. The Holy Spirit did that with David, Saul, and Samson. What happened to Samson's strengeth? And David prayed: "Cast me not away from the presence; and take not the Holy Spirit from me." ( Ps.51:11) When the Holy Spirit left both Saul and Samson did it ever return to them?
Dec 7 08 4:26 PM
Dec 7 08 4:57 PM
<he will not be attacked by his fellow brothers, like whites are>
actually, the more heinous the violent crimes(with exception of pedophilia) are committed(i.e. the butchering of ron and nicole here), the more respect is usually given to the prison thug who committed them. Pedophiles on the other hand, although they've committed a violent, heinous crime against kids, are usually beaten, abused and in some cases killed while in prison. Even twisted criminals can't stand to be identified with them. Those who attack women as well. It may depend on how much exposure OJ has to the the other thugs he is in with, as to his outcome.
Dec 8 08 8:33 AM
ASongOfDegrees wrote: CJAV1611 wrote: Wil You said: As far as the Holy Ghost. Jesus said that the Comforter would abide with us forever. There was no promise of an abiding Comforter in the OT. In fact, the Holy Ghost did not indwell the body of the OT saint. Oh yes HE did. The fact is the Holy Spirit never stayed within those saints as he does with us. The Holy Spirit moved within and then left them never staying within. The Holy Spirit did that with David, Saul, and Samson. What happened to Samson's strengeth? And David prayed: "Cast me not away from the presence; and take not the Holy Spirit from me." ( Ps.51:11) When the Holy Spirit left both Saul and Samson did it ever return to them? Um...That's what I said. That's two strikes against you, sister. Wil
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