Art wrote:
Shain
Your reasoning is ridiculous. Not my opinion at all. You see Art unlike you I believe in Isa.28: 13 So, according to you, christians are not to be light, not to be salt , cannot get persecuted for righteousness sake, we are not to mourn ,not to be peacemakers when Paul says we are to live peacably with all men???? I'll ask you again and try to stay focused. Where in the Sermon on the Mount at any time Jesus is talking to any Christian, or the Church. Show me the verse or verses. You claim to read every verse and believe what every word says, ( Your Words not mine) then show us all here where does Jesus direct his words to the Chruch or any Christian in all of those verses.? Paul is not found in the Sermon on the Mount, so lets keep with the Sermon on the mount and stop trying to muddy up the waters. Can you do that ?? Lets keep it real simple show me the verse or verses that are direct to the Christain and the Church when neither are found in any of it. The Church hasn't been established yet did you know that?

I have been line by line thru the Beatitudes and the new testament hundreds of times and you have your own agenda for discarding these verses. They are needed NOW, not in the millenium where Christ is ruling and reigning with a rod of iron. This teaching is what hyper dispensationalism teaches, How can one be so screwed up as you are. Hyper Dis..doesn't teach this at all. Show me in any of their teachings that shows us they do. that the gospels do not apply to the church. Have you joined their ranks in part??

You show me where in the Bible where it states that these beatitudes cannot be applied to the church?????I will take the scriptures word for it, not yours. I have already shown Cym this over and over again, you just didn't bother to read them, because they don't matter to you at all.


So for all those who want to learn something here it is. The Word(s) of God will make all this crystal clear.

You will notice when you begin the read Matt.5 no Christians are present and no Church. Not only that there are no New Testment writings at this time. Have the 12 Apostles been choosen yet no, not until Matt.10.

So who is Jesus talking to?? How about the Jews.

What to see? read the following and tell me if this is for Born Again Christians or the Jews?

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Tell me something, has Christ fulfilled the law yet? When did He do this/

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: This Kingdom is not found here yet is it Art? Only in the Millennium you'll find the Kingdom of Heaven. but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:20
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Tell me again Art how does this exactly apply to the Christian Doctrinally? This is not the way one today gets to Heaven is it Art? Answer the question, yes or no? I thought Christians are saved by Grace? So are we or are we not Art saved by Grace and not by our own righteousness?

After you try and disregard this one to fit your Liberal Gospel I have much more for you to chew on.





Shain1611

"SANCTIFY THEM THROUGH THY TRUTH: THY WORD IS TRUTH
(John 17:17)

And Jesus Speaking; " He that rejecteth me, receiveth not my words, hath one that, judgeth him:the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in
( John12:48 KJV)