The problem we have here is that Art did not cause the problems, Steelmaker did by calling Art and others idiots and believers in myths for holding to the AV1611. Steelmaker has been shown fact upon fact but continues to rag on those who hold to the AV1611. I have shown and he has not refuted the fact that 90% of ALL manuscript evidence supports the Textus Receptus the Greek NT manuscript the AV1611 was translated from. He wants to be called a Freedom Reader but refuses to allow us our freedom to hold to the AV1611 but opts rather to call us idiots and believers in myths. Would you rather have 90% or 10%?

Why don't you drop this Steel? Is there a reason you continue to drag this up every chance you get? Why did you feel necessary to bash Art seeing he is no longer posting here? I am beginning to wonder about your motives. You say you don't hate the AV1611 but to bring the subject up over and over again gives me pause.

My proof:

CJS, I think you're FAR too-intelligent to actually BELIEVE the garbage those frumpy, ignorant KJVO authors put out! Their main purpose is SELLING BOOX, not to honor GOD. 6hey make up their stuff as they go, drawing largely from Dr. Benjamin Wilkinson's 1930 book, Our Authorized Bible Vindicated. Lest we forget, Dr. W. was a CULT OFFICIAL, being a big shot in the SDA cult. Might i suggest that you look at the matter MORE CLOSELY? I hope ya see the MAN-MADE ORIGIN of KJVO, & the total lacka scriptural support for it, even in the KJV itself. If ya read the AV1611, both the text & the extratextual materials from its makers, you'll see even more closely what a folly the KJVO myth is.


Now, why you ever believed those sleazy booksellers is beyond me! And this"you have no final authority" hooey comes straight from a certain confused and misled gent who's posted here before, & has absolutely no basis in Scripture for his goofy ideas. His stuff is straight from Disleyland's world of imagination!


However, there's nothing wrong with using the KJV alone(or any other one valid version) outta PERSONAL PREFERENCE. But, if one uses only the KJV outta belief of the KJVO myth, then one is making a big mistake! He is using it because of the WORDS OF MAN insteada any guidance from GOD.
If the above is not blind hate then I don't know what hate is. The lies and slander is mind boggling. If Steelmaker wants an honest debate why does he need to make such outrageous comments? Calling those who hold to the KJV as God's Word for English speaking people as KJVO is what is the myth since I have never said that every one in the world must learn English and read the KJV to have the Word of God. Steelmaker is obviously ignorant to the fact that it is the the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts that we believe are the preserved Word of God since the OT was written in Hebrew and the NT was written in Greek. BTW Steelmaker, will you ever answer my point that 90% of manuscript evidence supports the Received text (Textus Receptus) the Greek manuscript from which the KJV NT was translated from? How about the Msoretic Hebrew text that the KJV translators used for the OT? Have you ever read the history of the Textus Receptus as it relates to the brilliant scholar Erasmus? Probably not but instead you bring out red herrings like Wilkinson. I spent an entire year in Bible College studying this issue and not once did I ever hear the name of Wilkinson mentioned, and you know why, because it ain't what we base our view of the KJV on, that is simply your opinion. Now if you want to read the works of Erasmus or William John (Dean) Burgon (I guess Erasmus and Burgon must be two of the sleazy book sellers Steel is talking about?) than we might have something to actually talk about but until you quit making your incediary remarks there is absolutely nothing to talk to you about!


Tim

Proverbs 29:2 "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn."
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