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The answer would be yes,
Yes? every noun implies a nouner? That's just silly.

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none of these just happened out of thin air, the laws of science proves this.
Which just begs the question, did God come out of thin air?

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These " elements " where did they come from?
The elements of design? Simplicity, discrete functionality, repetitive patterns, and processes that do not naturally replicate themselves.

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No because God is God, and that's why He's God.
How conveniently circular. But if you're going to allow one thing to exist without an exister, then you have to at least nominally allow other things to do so, as well. At the very least, your assertions about the laws of the universe proving that creation needs a creator loses all credibility.

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Besides that you cannot prove there is no God with 100% sureness. Even if you got up to 99.9 % that .1% might just be the proof you missed.
Sure. But i'm not trying to convince anyone there is no god. I just maintain i have seen no reason to believe in one, and special case arguments aren't terribly convincing.

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In order for those odds to happen you had to have a cause and effect.
Don't slide the goalposts. The fact remains that you can't use probability math today to decide i probably didn't have the poker hand i had two days ago. No matter how you determine the odds against it, it did happen. Saying the hand was one in a million or any other number doesn't make it not to have happened.

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So your analogy is flawed and the man you ridiculed is correct.
Nope. If if happened, it happened, and any math against it is just noise, now.


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Nice try but where's the beef?
Ooooh! A sound bite. Creationist literature is full of such things. Doesn't really address the complicated science that makes up the observations that support the T of E, but it sounds good, doesn't it? Evolution can't be presented in quickie sound bites, it takes time. The 'beef' is available, if you were really interested.



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Truth? What is Truth? If you believe in TRUTH than you must also believe in UN-Truth? And who determines what is Truth and Non-Truth?
With a capital T? I don't know. Sounds like philosophy to me.

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Does a dog know Truth, how about a fish, or a worm, how about a rock?
Since none of them lecture on god, evolution, or the scientific method, who gives a rat's ass?

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Is there any way that God could just have happened?

No, because the very thing you claim " Science" , is against you.
Okay. So where did God come from?

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Your very own logic points right back at the science you are so sure of and that's your problem.
Not really. The science is exactly what supports my views. It's unscientific, bumper-sticker statements that are at odds with it.