Brian,

This is from Artical Two in the Sep. issue page 8 in which I have directed you before to read and still this didn't ring a bell with you at all.


From you:
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This is NOT about his deity, his eternalness, his being in the Trinity, his being "the same essence of the Father", etc., etc., etc. Neither I nor Bob Ross have said Ruckman or others have denied these things, despite Evan's article trying to make it appear that this is the case. This is SIMPLY and ONLY about whether or not he was rightfully called the "Son" of God before the incarnation or not. PERIOD. Orthodox Christianity says "yes". I say "yes". Ross says "yes". Even you said "yes". Ruckman, Riplinger and Evans say "No!" - and that's how this all came about.


This is from Ruckman:
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..." for they ( Ruckman, Herb Evans, & Riplinger) believe in the preexistent Word was deity or God and that the God/man, the Son of God is also deity or God. This straw-man issue is merely a semantics exploitation of the Title rather than the Being or Person of our Lord. The contention is over whether HIS Title as the " Son of God " ( rather than His Being) originated and functioned in eternity or time. We are simply saying that The Word was not the Son before He was MADE flesh and dwelt among us not that God the Son was made flesh ( Jn. 1:1,14)


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One must make a difference between the Lord's Eternal Being and the God/man's earthly titles, Christ, Lamb, Servent, Son, King, and so forth. One must make the difference between the preexistent Word and the God/Man's birth as the Son of God, MADE of a women and MADE of the Seed of 4:4. (Arthur Pink)


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Luke 1:32 " he ....SHAL be called the Son of the Highest"


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Romans 1:3" Jesus Crist our Lord....was MADE FLESH of the seed OF DAVID according to the FLESH" ..



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Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.


Now who are we to believe you or the Word of God.

Before the " Son of God", came into the World and was crucified died and rose from the dead, was anyone saved by GRACE ALONE? If Jesus Christ did not come ( Begotten) he would not be the " Eternal Son-ship" because the Word of God says so, not because those who believe in the " Eternal Son-ship" do.


As I said before, I never gave this any thought before , never crossed my mind until this nonsense started about KJVonly's didn't believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.
Shain1611

"SANCTIFY THEM THROUGH THY TRUTH: THY WORD IS TRUTH
(John 17:17)

And Jesus Speaking; " He that rejecteth me, receiveth not my words, hath one that, judgeth him:the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in
( John12:48 KJV)