Hi MaricoG,

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wow...talk about a twisting and turning conversation!

I don't believe this for a moment!

Jesus Christ has always been the Second Person of the Godhead, however, Jesus is the begotten Son of God, the only begotten God, because while Jesus was fully human He is also fully God, and always has been, God, while not always manifested, in the flesh.



I agree with you. However, "most" (I didn't say all) KJV-only supporters believe "only begotten God" means his Godhood had a beginning - which is why they oppose John 1:18 in modern versions, and thus therefore reject eternal Sonship as I described earlier in the thread.

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Where in the Old Testament do you find Son of God? He is called the Lamb, the King, the Lord of Hosts, the Lord, your Redeemer, the King of Israel, the first and the last, the glory of the Lord, the Lord thy God, the Saviour, Mighty One of Jacob, son of Man, Servant, and more I am probably missing, but I do not find Him referred to as the Son of God until the New Testament. Do you?



As already mentioned by Franciscan Monkey, many look to Dan 3:25 (I have yet to hear an explanation, from KJV-only supporter who rejects eternal Sonship, about this passage). Also, previously mentioned on this board, Prov 30:4b is often is used to defend eternal Sonship.

If Shain1611 is still hanging around this thread, I'm hoping he hasn't decided to abandon this discussion as I'm hoping he'll respond to the fact that Ruckman, Riplinger and Evans explicitly reject eternal Sonship.