I do deny the Trinity theory. But for you to say, "how can you be [saved without believing in Jesus]" is rediculous.


FHII, I am not saying you are not saved (it is God's call, not mine), but the point is simple: the definition of who Christ is, is vitally important in "believing" in him. If a man says "I believe in Jesus" but by "Jesus" he means a rubber duck, is his faith valid? No. If a man says "I believe in Jesus" but by "Jesus" he means a good human teacher and nothing more, is his faith valid? No. If a man says "I believe in Jesus" but by "Jesus" he means an created angel, is his faith valid? No. If a man says "I believe in Jesus" but by "Jesus" he means something other than what, by definition, the church has explained and maintained throughout history, is his faith valid? Where do you draw the line? The line drawn by the Christian church was (and is) acceptance of the doctrine of the Trinity.


The Roman Catholic Church says, "This is orthodox, and that's the way it is!". The Greek ORTHODOX Catholic Church says, "This is orthodox, and that's the way it is!". RCC/XRC "Tiny" Tim says "This is orthodox, and that's the way it is!"


On the matter of the Trinity, all three of those are in agreement - opposing the "orthodox" view of the Trinity, by definition, puts you outside of the Christian church. If you feel comfortable with that, that's between you and God, but I for one would not be confident opposing such a definitive doctrine.

Brian