BTW, you never did answer the real question regarding "orthodox church"????? Do you believe that JESUS CHRIST can "SAVE" lost souls without an "orthodox church" involved? Why did you run away when I asked this???


When did I ever say that salvation depended on an orthodox church being involved? Jesus Christ, God the Son saves souls, not a church. What I am saying is that a person who denies orthodox doctrine such as the Virgin birth or the Deity of Christ and yes the Trinity are probably not saved despite the fact they claim that they are. How can you be saved by someone (Jesus Christ) you don't even believe in? What I also said is that a person who denies these fundamental truths would probably not attend an orthodox (fundamental) church.

Proverbs 29:2 "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn."