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Re: To all the Modalists out there!
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"Where in your Bible does it say that we should not accept words just because they are not found in the canon of scripture? Or perhaps you heard that in a sermon[/i], or at [u]Sunday School?"
2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2Pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
Jud 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
"No, that's not all we can really do. We can also examine and study what others believe (and why), including the historical universal church. As for your disbelief in the universal church, Paul says there is ONE body, ONE church. He said to the living Romans that they are/were part of it. He said to the living Corinthians that they are/were part of it. Same with the Ephesians and Colossians. I am part of that one body, that one church. Are you?"
Not part of the church that teaches for doctrine the commandments of men. Is the Catholic Church part of this universal church you speak of? Are sinners part of this church you speak of? Is there sin in the body of Christ? Are the Lutheran's in this church as well? You still are not discerning the body. The church is not known of the world, it has no name but one and that is the one name given whereby we must be saved.
1Jo 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called
the sons of God
:
therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not
.
"
Once I began to study and understand real Trinitarian doctrine
, I saw the verse in a way that
fits into Trinitarian doctrine
. Perhaps you are not as far off from
orthodox Trinitarian doctrine
as you hoped you were."
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with
every wind of doctrine
, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby
they lie in wait to deceive
;
What you found was not in Scritpure was it Brian?
"First, the phrases " and come again unto you" and "I will come to you"
don't even have to
refer to the coming of the Holy Spirit.
They could refer
to his still-future coming and the passage still makes perfect sense and can be perfectly true. Second, there are numerous passages that speak of him
having to remain in heaven
until his still-future coming, yet the
Holy Spirit is here now
. Is that not a "distinction"?
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo,
I am with you alway
, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
2Co 3:17 Now the
Lord is that Spirit
: and
where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty
.
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he
that came down from heaven
, even the Son of man
which is in heaven
.
2Jo 1:7 For many
deceivers
are entered into the world,
who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh
. This is
a deceiver and an antichrist.
I am not your teacher and only wish to share things with you that you may in turn try them by your own knowledge of the Lord. I really don't know any thing. Still learning and growing in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Praying for you and all men that you would also come to the knowledge of the truth and continue to grow in it. I am a sinner, but I have a hope that God through Jesus Christ our Lord will deliver me from my present situation of being a sinner and deliver me from this vile body and I thank him for this promise of eternal life. This is my faith that I share with all my brethren in the Lord who we patiently wait for. Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh.
Rom 8:22-25
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only
they,
but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption,
to
wit
, the redemption of our body. For
we
are
saved
by
hope
: but
hope
that is seen is not
hope
: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet
hope
for? But if we hope for that we see not,
then
do we with patience wait for
it.
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