Who is the authority on who is Trinitarian, or what Trinitarian is if it is a mystery?


The definition of Trinitarianism is not a mystery. The mystery is in our limited understanding of the "how" - just like many things about the Christian faith, and many other things for that matter.


Is their another definition you want to propose?


At its most basic definition, it is the belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not Trinity (three "hypostases" yet one "homoousios") , but are rather "modes" (or aspects, rolls, offices, "thingy's", etc.) of his being.


That's why I call them "thingy's" When you trinitarians figure out if they are persons or personages, then get back to me.


Trinitarians have had it clearly defined for nearly two millennia. Someone who instead uses the term "thingy's" seems to me to be the one who still needs to figure it out.


I was admitting a fault that I have when I talk of Trinitariasm as being the belief in 3 Gods and not One. Furthermore, I do understand the Trinity belief.


Which is it? Do you understand, or are you often confused about it being the belief of 3 Gods? One who understands it would not say it is a belief in 3 Gods. Trinitarianism is explicitly monotheistic, period.


Now prove me wrong on that!!!


From the Athanasian Creed: "Thus the Father is God; the Son is God; the Holy Spirit is God: And yet there are not three gods, but one God."

Brian